tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22842788.post1191882448298029955..comments2023-11-05T07:44:07.654-05:00Comments on GeniusboyFiremelon: Yeah, I know...Timothy Callahanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04078183191900311833noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22842788.post-35226872350728411912008-11-04T10:17:00.000-05:002008-11-04T10:17:00.000-05:00It wasn't only the look of the Joker, it was also ...It wasn't only the look of the Joker, it was also the shades of anarchy, of not caring about money, etc. Clearly not Ledger's Joker but not DC's normal one either.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02667052712057873910noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22842788.post-27080137450087001492008-11-03T16:22:00.000-05:002008-11-03T16:22:00.000-05:00Oh, yeah. That is true. I mean comic books take ...Oh, yeah. That is true. I mean comic books take a lot longer than the quick, disposable motion pic-ture format.Timothy Callahanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04078183191900311833noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22842788.post-25593741420090825292008-11-03T13:53:00.000-05:002008-11-03T13:53:00.000-05:00No, no, no. See, Tim, comic books take a long time...No, no, no. See, Tim, comic books take a long time to make. It'd be impossible for Azzarello and Lee Bermejo to have seen "The Dark Knight" before creating their graphic novel, so there's really just no way "Joker" can be a rip-off of that movie, as you claim.andy khourihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05717045909747792941noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22842788.post-81709191945566184482008-11-03T05:53:00.000-05:002008-11-03T05:53:00.000-05:00Man, no disrespect to Bermejo, the film-makers, or...Man, no disrespect to Bermejo, the film-makers, or anybody ever, but a Chelsea-smilin' Joker doesn't seem like the kind of earth-shatteringly original idea anyone needs to get precious about.Jameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14740669500899738381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22842788.post-7695842998235896732008-11-02T19:45:00.000-05:002008-11-02T19:45:00.000-05:00I think you're right.Or maybe I don't.I think you're right.<BR/><BR/>Or maybe I don't.Timothy Callahanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04078183191900311833noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22842788.post-77635387101297965152008-11-02T17:14:00.000-05:002008-11-02T17:14:00.000-05:00I sent Tim angry emails, but they weren't because ...I sent Tim angry emails, but they weren't because of his "Joker" review.<BR/><BR/>But I really didn't. And if I did, they would actually be because of his review.<BR/><BR/>But they wouldn't be.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22842788.post-22802724149088194462008-11-02T11:43:00.000-05:002008-11-02T11:43:00.000-05:00Kris--I am full of paradoxical thinking. That's h...Kris--I am full of paradoxical thinking. That's how I roll.Timothy Callahanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04078183191900311833noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22842788.post-62036497539597669902008-11-02T11:34:00.000-05:002008-11-02T11:34:00.000-05:00So, then, it's settled. We storm the castle at daw...So, then, it's settled. We storm the castle at dawn!Jack Tangohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08589639747686496477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22842788.post-11880279881766494522008-11-02T09:55:00.000-05:002008-11-02T09:55:00.000-05:00Yeah, I thought to myself when I saw your review y...Yeah, I thought to myself when I saw your review yesterday, "he's going to get a lot of people e-mailing him about this one."<BR/><BR/>I wasn't going to respond, because I don't really care too much about where you may or may not think Joker came from creatively, but I don't like the argument that effect and what a reader "feels" when reading a text is all that matters. It seems to be paradoxical for you to use that argument, yet take the time to dispel the effect your purposefully ambiguous diction had on your readers. If effect is all that matters, why bother to let us in on <I>your</I> intent?<BR/><BR/>Besides, a little critiquing the critic never hurt anybody. ;) Batman #681 will come out in a few weeks and you will write some blog or WWC about its underlying metaphors and themes and everyone will love you again.Kris Krausehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07328386608038924213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22842788.post-87784412257615116422008-11-02T05:26:00.000-05:002008-11-02T05:26:00.000-05:00You're getting angry e-mails? Welcome to Fame Tim....You're getting angry e-mails? Welcome to Fame Tim. FAME.marcwrzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12558816994072889277noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22842788.post-34418466558661043562008-11-02T01:38:00.000-05:002008-11-02T01:38:00.000-05:00Well, I do have to admit that I like the ambiguity...Well, I do have to admit that I like the ambiguity of my wording because it's impossible to know how directly the film influenced the book. I know that it was written before the release, but there's a reason a Joker hardcover was scheduled for release this year, and I have a hard time believing it was completely created without any kind of knowledge of what Nolan and company were doing. <BR/><BR/>And it doesn't matter whether it was or not, because it feels that way. Once again, it's important to remember that intent is irrelevant for interpretation. Effect is all that matters.Timothy Callahanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04078183191900311833noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22842788.post-71540344075492213952008-11-01T23:34:00.000-04:002008-11-01T23:34:00.000-04:00I think the problem with the statement about Ledge...I think the problem with the statement about Ledger's Joker "informing" Azzarello and Bermejo's, is that it implies ownership of a characterization.<BR/><BR/>What you're really talking about is a synchronicitous characterization; certain terms like "whether it's true or not" could have been, "Although not conceived as a tie-in to the movie, there are strikings similarities..." or some such.<BR/><BR/>I think, in any regard, your wording could have stood to be clearer. As it currently stands it's almost accusatory, whether that's true or not. ;-)Jack Tangohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08589639747686496477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22842788.post-39000785693476885472008-11-01T22:05:00.000-04:002008-11-01T22:05:00.000-04:00Yup--this book makes a whole lot more sense than t...Yup--this book makes a whole lot more sense than the end of Broken City.Timothy Callahanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04078183191900311833noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22842788.post-36400609837798328352008-11-01T21:48:00.000-04:002008-11-01T21:48:00.000-04:00It seems to be very much inspired by the movie. In...It seems to be very much inspired by the movie. In any instance, it should be noted that Bermejo's allegedly spent 3 years on what is essentially a 6-issue mini. And that's criminally slow, any way you cut it.<BR/><BR/>On the other hand, Azzarello suprised me by being as coherent as he was. I remember being lost by the end of Batman: Broken city, and Lex Luthor: Man of Steel was pretty impenetrable on the first read. This time around, I the whole thing reads great:)Vanjahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02796186915343967167noreply@blogger.com